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The sultanate should not head Islam in Nigeria because it’s a political organisation

–Alhaji Kasum of Afonja dynasty


Alhaji Olola Kasum is a social critic and President of the Afonja Descendants Union. In this interview with SINA FADARE, he speaks about the agony the Kwarans have passed through in the hands of the Saraki political dynasty and the tireless efforts being made by the opposition to put an end to it come 2011.


How will you react to the recent pronouncement that the Sultan of Sokoto is the leader of the Muslim and that the office should be rotatory?

In the past before the enthronement of this current Sultan of Sokoto, I have raised the issue, though it generated a lot of controversy.

The fact is that the Sultanate is a political organization because as far as I know there was no time that the people sat together and made Sultan their leader.

Their claim was that Jihad started in 1904, but there were many Islamic organizations within the communities before that time. We have Idris Aloma from Bornu, the first to organize pilgrimage to Mecca around 13th century. If there should be any leadership, at all, it should come from Bornu.

We have another one called Shitta Bay Mosque in Lagos. That Mosque was built in 16th century. It was opened by the Emir of Constantinople. If we want to talk about which one came first, Bornu and that of Lagos will take precedence over that of Sokoto.

What was paramount to Sokoto was the issue of Jihad where many Muslims were killed. That was when the emirate system started. It is not fair if Sultan lay claim to the headship of Islamic organization in Nigeria because there is no constitutional backing for such.

Against the backdrop of the recent criticism of President Olusegun Obasanjo’s tenure, how will you assess him?

To be fair to Obasanjo, he came at the critical time of Nigeria as a nation. People may say he has done nothing. If you look critically you will see that by the design of the military, the north’s monopoly arrangement was alarming.

Abacha was able to re-arrange the military in a way that favoured few cabal in the north and few of them enjoyed the leadership.

The hierarchy of the military was seriously monopolized by the North. When Obasanjo, came, he put sanity to it and things were re-distributed to take care of all interests.

Obasanjo was a nationalist who did not want the country to break. The time he came, Nigeria was at the brink of disintegration. He managed and made sure that the country did not break.

But when we are talking about economy, he was a total failure, because the Obasanjo leadership did not have the capacity to monitor very well and all our money was looted.

He introduced some few economic policies but was unable to check the excesses within his government. Obasanjo, who claimed to be the champion of anti corruption now ended up as the most corrupt person in Nigeria. He started Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) but towards the tail end of his tenure, it turned out to be a mysterious institution terrorizing innocent people. He might have had good intention of setting it up, but he was power drunk and used the organization to hunt all his perceived political enemies.

As a Socio critics who champion the cause of Yoruba kingship in Ilorin, why have you kept mute despite non actualization of your dream?

Kwara state as you see it has a serious battle as Yoruba kingship is concerned. The scene is dominated by the Fulani people to the detriment of the majority. People felt it was not fair for a minority ethnic group to dominate the Yoruba who are in the majority. It all started from history, during the period of Afonja when Alimi, a friend of his fell out with him and things never remained the same till date . But the sum of it was that we struggled very hard and tried to change the status-quo but am sure soonest and not too distant a future, things will balance up.

How will you assess the last five years of Governor Bukola in the state?

As far as am concerned, Bukola has tried his best to change the system as he met it. Bukola represents a continuation of a political dynasty which is not democratic. One man controlling the whole system including the apparatus of government. If you go to the state Assembly, Bukola’s father single-handed picked the whole 24 members.

The simple truth is that in the state everywhere you can see the domination of the Saraki dynasty. This is not fair and it is against the principle of democracy. There is a need to balance the system and carry other people along.

You know that Olusola Saraki has been on the scene for many years and he feels he has the ultimate power to control Kwarans. But if you look at it critically Saraki is a product of poor electoral system and since his dominance in Kwara politics he has perfected ways of dominating his political environment in order to keep the Fulani hegemony alive.

But the opposition are trying very hard to bring a change. I think very soon, things will change for better.

In the past, the opposition used to brag that they would effect a change. This has not been possible in the last 15 years. How do you think this change will come soon?

I can assure you that Saraki will not be there as the governor of the state in 2011. Definitely there will be a wind of change whether the Sarakis like it or not.

The opposition are strongly working towards this. There is always a time for everything, Sarakis should be told in a simple language that the hour has come when the people of kwara will be free from their political grip.

By 2011, by the grace of God the beautiful political ones will be born in the state. There must be a change no matter the situation.

Yes, the present system is very intimidating, harassing and oppressing the opposition by making sure they whip them in line. This is in-humanity to man though the situation looks unredeemable, but I can authoritatively tell you that there is a ray of light at the end of the tunnel.

But there is insinuation in the state that it is the turn of Senator Gbemisola Saraki to be governor come 2011. How are you going to tackle this?

That is the rumour everybody is carrying all over, but it is a figment of the imagination of those who were doing so. The issue of duplicating themselves in governance has gone, it will not happen again.

I have a strong feeling that by 2011, Saraki will pack his belongings and go back to Ogun state his home. I don’t believe in all the political scheming going on.

All that I know is that there was a time a Saraki came as a slave master to torture the people of Kwara, and now he is winding up. There will be miracle which the Kwarans have been dreaming of for many years, it would happen in 2011 by the grace of God.

But the political antecedent in the state had not favoured the opposition since 1979. How are you going to do it this time round?

Every fall has an end; there must be a beginning and an end. Saraki myth of invisibility started in 1973 when he came to join politics again. He joined politics in 1964, but he was defeated. He formed a party then called "Egbe Omo oni Keke."

He ran away when he was defeated. He came back in 1973 and he had been using propaganda effectively to achieve his political desire. People created a myth round him to make him special. For example there was a myth that Saraki was habouring a big sore on his leg and that anytime this sore is infected, his money multiplies. People also believe that he had a power of disappearance at will.

All these created a bandwagon effect and people thought Saraki could not be defeated.

But the fact is that after the Biafra war, he had a lot of money, he made his money in that war.

He was a contactor to the military and was in money. He was the one who started money politics in Kwara. Before his arrival, it was politics of principle. But he introduced politics of bread and butter and since then he has been using this strong factor to enslave a lot.

But now, the wind of change has come because people have seen the mistake of being one of his bandwagon and am sure in few years time, there will be re-orientation. His myth has been deflated through Societe Generale Bank. He would be booted out of Kwara politics by 2011.

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